Can you put up Hursts testimony in order to settle who was right, Sanders or Bugliosi? "pg201"Reeve was my main person to help me," PJ Tate said. California Deaths, 1940 - 1997. . That guy was a nut-job! Whitson though is mentioned in literature on the web as being at least associated with the CIA. That is assuming I outlive him. My desire is to share info about Whitson and my friend's father to discover the alias her father was using back then. Got a link? He began the process around the start of Oct '69, a couple of weeks before Manson was arrested at Barker Ranch {for something unrelated}. I saw footage of Manson the other day claiming he'd gone up to the Tate house before Chapman arrived to "see what my children had done." And it just lingers in cyberspace and in time, becomes accepted as some kind of unshakable truth. Not the bad eye, the good eye. A.F.S., Colonia Dignidad, von Braun, Kissinger, Ruby, and Giancana are some of the major players. At the same time he was befriending CIA agent Reeve Whitson, Manson was also meeting with Charles Winans, an operative from Naval Intelligence. In my research into a close friend's father (Elwood "Red" Franklin Williams) that was active in the Laurel Canyon activities back then, I found much of Red's info matched the info on Whitson. All the other times he is mentioned by Bugliosi.Thanks, Grim, for giving us the testimony. I can't say if that means anything with regard to conspiracy or governmental involvement, but parole violations require neither crime nor conviction. Mon Durphy said regarding the killers you have to take into account that BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION they took 100s of trips on hallucinogenic drugs in addition to smoking marijuana daily, these people are bound to forget various things that most look at as things that are mere footnotes such as what piece of furniture was where, who said what first, where the flag was, what time it was, etc, etcThat would apply, even if they hadn't taken loads of drugs over a 4~5 year period. However, to be fair to ONeill, when I said that Hatami mentioned Whitson four times, I was being a bit sloppy in my choice of words. There are a lot of unanswered questions here. It's not like the Moorehouse affair which is plain wrong. Reeve Whitson Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties TY, https://zodiackilleridentified.com/2021/07/. It seems that every time someone new "writes a book" they come up with all kinds of things that have never been thought of. Quite a bit of "what I've read" has actually come from people who weren't stating die-hard fact, but in the mists of time I'd remember what I read but not the circumstance or context. I find that hard to believe.In Krenwinkel's first parole hearing, she pretty much said she didn't remember anything about that night except chasing down Gibby. HA HA HA!! "Put yourself in my position. A.F.S., Colonia Dignidad, von Braun, Kissinger, Ruby, and Giancana are some of the major players. O'Neill also quotes the LAPD's Lt. Helder, who refers to Whitson in the book "Five Down at Cielo Dr" under a pseudonym "Walter Kern," confirmed by LaJeunesse. It's the inevitable outcome of the crypic utterances. That clears things up. When I think of those kinds of things, I actually start to get scared. Regardless, most of the info on my friend's father matches the info on Whitson. Reeve Whitson was born on March 25, 1931. What can anyone remember about a place they went yesterday, and I mean detail specific ? And this has been going on since the start of 2017. Mon Durphy, youre forgetting Manson, his mysterious partner, and of course Whitson who was in the house after the murders but before the police came. It's a strange coincidence. Reeve Whitson? 77 0 obj <> endobj The purpose behind the plot was to incite terror among white people and put the blame on black radicals. %PDF-1.7 % Who is he again ? Sadie ? She was probably 3 sheets to the wind at the time. What I'm getting at is that so many people have said so many things over the years and so often, information has been confused, mis-stated, misconstrued and people have projected something as fact when there has been no evidence to support it or any finding of proof. The FBI files tell a clear . Grim glad youre back, where have you been?Odd coincidence do you guys know the judge in the Green River Killer, Gary Ridgway was Richard Jones, Quincy Jones brother. That's not in any doubt. I've been researching the activities of an old friend's father back in the Laurel Canyon days. There's one part of Whitson's story that makes no sense to me. Vera Dreiser said Where'd ya learn that, Grim? ONeal's lousy, undocumented conspiracy book? I agree Beauders. Except there was this one dude, Reeve Whitson, who is alleged to have known about the killings at the Tate residence before the police. My conclusion, given the research I've done so far, is MY FRIEND"S FATHER KNEW WHITSON (if Whitson existed) and used Whitson's information to disguise himself or Whitson used my friend's father's info to add to his own. I've used it myself. Another to identify | SlotForum I would love it if Stephen Kay wrote a memoir, not just for the Manson stuff but because he nailed that scumbag Lawrence Bittaker. Undoubtedly, he would have run into Peter Folger in those years as American corporations and the US government were intertwined throughout that era. Whitson was apparently an enigmatic figure, but counted among his friends a large segment of Hollywood and business. He could not have been there prior to the dinner engagement at the El Coyote, otherwise he would joined Sharon, Jay, Wojtek and Abigail.The time of departure to the restaurant is tied to the delivery of Abigails bicycle by Dennis Hurst. The documentary itself raises more questions than it answers and can't shed a positive light on the investigation, which was one of its goals. It's the stuff conspiracy theories are made of ! I have the trial transcripts and Rudi Altobelli confirms the dates of who moved in and out and when and who was in the main and guest houses between Melcher's departure and the Polanskis arrival. Perhaps Manson thought he could recruit me at some point?Who knows?But I will tell you this. He didn't molest his daughters, he was supposedly so protective of Ruth Ann that he originally set out to kill Charlie after hearing about her joining up with the group, as far as the acts on a child under 14 if they're true he deserved a beating within an inch of his life but at the same time you'd have to do the same to Melcher, Wilson, Jakobsen, Manson, Deasy, Polanskis, etc, etc, etc. He was connected with Nazis, top US Gov. ONeill got a lot of help for his book from Stephen Kay. William Weston said Hatami mentioned the name Reeve Whitson four times in his testimony at the Manson trialNo he did not. That's one of the reasons that there is so much wrong info out there on this subject and why so many ridiculous theories abound and so much importance is placed on anything that appears to be new and vital.So, with all that in mind, just where would information pertaining to Dean Moorehouse molesting his daughters have come from ? He saw Reeve later that night.Since Reeve Whitson was at the house the night before the murders, when was he there? Good to see you back, Grim!Now that your posting again, maybe you can put up Hatamis testimony on Whitson. ONeill also was given access to never-before-seen documents showing that DeCarlo said that Melcher made three visits to Spahn Ranch after the murders and spoke with Manson. Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties The next morning when he heard about the murders, he was worried his son was among them. He also shared this with Paul Fitzgerald who told him he already knew this.But it's not true. That is how I was able to write a 1200 page encyclopedia on Manson, etc. And has anybody seen Bugliosi's OJ Special ("OJ Simpson: 100% Guilty")? He dumped bodies in Portland and there are a bunch of missing prostitutes in that time frame in Portland as well. Charles Manson Case - Who Was Reeve Whitson? - YouTube When Reeve starting working for the CIA is unknown. Sharon Tate's father was military intelligence and headed an off-the-grid task force of sorts aimed at finding out more about his daughter's murder. 2. Oddly, he frequently took his daughter with him on these flights. Reeve Whitson slept on a cot in his parents' kitchen, drove a Pinto, and left unpaid hospital bills when he died. In spite of his disclaimer to Rosenfelt, I think he was part of the plot to kill them and subsequently got involved in the subsequent cover-up of the role of the CIA and military intelligence in the murders. April or March, I don't remember the exact month Q:And was that the first time that you had spoken with this witness?A:YesQDid you direct that he be present at your office at a particular time?A:YesQ And how did you do so? June 2020 - Zodiac Killer Identified Thank you, Bunkhouse. Evelle Younger worked with CIA agents Manny Pena and Enrique Hernandez on the RFK assassination case just a year prior to the Tate murders. ", Lol "an impressive list of witnesses who vouch for him", all I see is one firmer film company president saying only "he knew about the Manson case", "Richard and Rita Edlund" whoever the fuck they were, Neil Cummings "a lawyer friend" of Whitsons (again WOW!! J. Edgar Hoover's directive to his agents said this: 1. I don't know if it's a typo or just laziness. What ONeill said was that Whitsons name appeared four times, all during Hatamis testimony. When you have what Hatami testified and what Bugliosi testified regarding Hatamis testimony and gather these statements together under the aggregate phrase Hatamis testimony, then you can see that ONeill was not careless in how he represented his source. Manson's partner left a pair of eyeglasses by the steamer trunks. He was a big talker and might have been a bit of Colonel Flagg type, but there is no doubt he had a lot of connections.How Whitson got so close to Bugliosi is strange and helped put pressure on Hatami. If the man had any relationship with the US government, he'd have had health coverage. The similarities include a close relationship with Manson, the desert ranches, Skorzeny, drugs, a probable link to a very secret CIA division, and he was a killer. Good to see you!! Anyone that engages with me should by now know that at the very least, notwithstanding my style and sense of humour {or lack thereof !} As I have indicated on an earlier thread, according to the Marie Vigil letters, the man who left the eyeglasses was Robert Linkletter. He befriended me and he was definitely a man with a violent past, and I suspect a rather dangerous past. William Garretson claimed that on the afternoon of August 8 while hitchhiking back to Cielo, some guy dressed as a hippie, picked him up. But a lot of people only see what they want to see and if they don't want to see the truth because they don't like it then they won't see it. "pg190Neil Cummings, lawyer friend of Whitson: "when it came to Manson, he "was closer to it than anybody..""He was actively involved with some sort of investigation when it happened. Knowing that his son was going to 10050 Cielo Drive the night before and because of reports that one of the bodies was unidentified (Steve Parent), his worried father called the police. Ajerseydevil said why Manson's parole was never revoked after all of his arrests for some fairly serious crimesWhy would someone's parole or probation be revoked for getting arrested ? ONeill interviewed Hatami who said that Bugliosi knew Reeve very well.Hatami also told ONeill that he first heard about the murders from Reeve. William Alexander " Rip " Robertson Jr. (August 3, 1920 - December 1, 1970) [1] was a Central Intelligence Agency Case Officer in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970. A police report said that Bobby and Harvey were hippies, users of drugs, and car thieves. I remember reading that Moorehouse molested his daughtersIf there's one thing I've come to realize in regard to TLB and other matters of such complexity that have attracted much thought, controversy, speculation and revision, it's that the phrase "I read somewhere" or "I remember reading/seeing somewhere" is one that is fraught with pitfalls because it's almost used as a barometer of the truth of the matter whereas in actuality, it could mean anything, something or nothing at all. Winifred Chapman claims the flag was there so either you take the word of a murderess or the flag was on the couch when Chapman left on Friday afternoon and then put back by whoever went back to the scene, perdonallp I believe it was there and Krenwinkels goofy ass didn't notice it or just plain lied, like Harold True said "Krenwinkel carries her brains in a lunchbox" lol. Jul 13, 2020. You got me Grim that is why I worded it the way I did, I don't remember were I saw it. O'Neill said he got his copy of the book from another journalist. Whether he still worked for the CIA, who knows. He was a close friend of Sebring, Tate and Polanski. Hopefully I can get on in the next couple of days. Ha! Versions of how the flag got there:Coroner, Thomas T. Noguchi and Joseph DiMonapg132the large American flag draped over the couch. He (O'Neill) said nothing to that effect. He also confirmed a detail from Ed Sanders' "The Family" that Melcher had let him borrow his Jaguar for the long drive to UkiahThis might be high tension wire drama.were it not for the fact that this has been public record since 1971. And besides, eventually, his officer did begin steps to revoke and when he did, it was for things that could actually be proven and made to stick. So that got my train of thought going and I looked into it. katie8753 said"I've still never heard of Reeve Whitson.Who was Reeve Whitson? They were connected to Ed Durston, boyfriend of Diane Linkletter.

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